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davd_bob wrote:after reading purrkur's update, i wonder who else is outsourcing?
personally i don't recall any particularly bad ECS boards i've ever used, they just dont have much to play with in the bios for OC'ers.

purrkur wrote:ECS has always been a player in the budget/value segment so their products have always been stripped of features and functionality and they have been known to use cheap components for their motherboards (meaning both cheap in price and cheap as in crap quality).
I have one of their boards, the infamous K7S5A. This board has been rock solid in terms of stability, but some time ago I bought myself an ASUS motherboard for my main machine so I moved the ECS board over to my wifes machine. As I was picking it out of the box I noticed 3 caps that were bulging(all around the voltage regulator for the CPU). So I replaced the leaking ones and a few others and it is still running like a champ (I never reached a stage of instability regardless of the bulging caps).
It was a cheap board and some might say you get what you pay for but I would gladly have paid $10-15 more if it would have meant working caps. This board is not that old.
Anyway, I am not buying ECS again. My ASUS board is quite impressive actually. It has a decent amount of features, overclockable, stable and no caps are bulging! For a real budget board I think I would go with ASRock which is a rebranded ASUS if I am not mistaken. There are many other good manufacturers out there so I am not worried that I won't be able to pick out quality products.
As for Abit/ECS, I can imagine that Abit will be specifying all components that are needed for ECS to build their products but not manufacturers of those. I suspect quality will suffer.

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