What is the fastest CPU that can be run SMP on the BP6?

[stoney315]

I just got hold of 2 x Intel Pentium III Processors 733MHz - SL3XY

i believe they are 133's

but i dont have water-cooling.. do u think I will need it?

So do i mod the BP6... then plug in the Neos.. Then plug in the Lin Lin's... then plug in the P3 733's?

Si

[BCN]

NO!!!!

MOd BP6: wire the sockets as you find on this site and change EC10 at least.
add active cooling onto BX
flash the latest BIOS, eventhough RU with PIII microcodes is fine.
then mod NEOs as in photo - cut one trace with a cutter.
forget about linlins and stick averything together.
bot at 66FSB and start testing.
do not expect 110-133FSB without serious BX coling

Good luck!

[Billl]

for and-1
when setting a cpu, it's nice to know what the clock-multiplier is.....
but it isn't necessary as most cpu's, (after about 400odd) were multiplier locked. it didn't matter what you set the multiplier to, it would still work and what it knew it was supposed to work at.

so, if you set the speed, your away at that speed x cm.
a current Piv 2.8ghz @ 100 fsb is 28x on the multiplier

Just to set the record straight here P4 2.8C uses a 200 MHZ bus Quad pumped so the multiplier is 14.


Billl

[stoney315]

Heya...

I have modded my BP6 board (with the wire under the cpu slots and the EC10 swapout).. and also scratched away at my Neo S370s

All seems ok with my P3-733's inserted... well... when i plug a second one in.. it doesnt boot... or beep or anything... and when i looked... some of the caps around the second cpu are bulging and leaking from a previous overclocking adventure.. so i am gonna replace them and try again.

but it seems to boot nicely with 1 p3-733 in there.
I have set the FSB to 66 as mentioned earlier.
but i just needed a quick bit of advice as to what i should set the cpu setting in the bios too...
is it... 733 / 66 = 11
so the multiplier is 11?
is that how it works.

help... anyone...

[BCN]

733/133=5.5 - your multiplyer is 5.5, man!

so FSB=66MHz CPU frequency you will get 66x5.5=366MHz.

and that is the starting point.

then start going up to your desired 133FSB, but there you will surely find obstacles, especially related to BX and its cooling

Good luck!

[stoney315]

ok cool.
or not cool should i say... rather hot i can imagine.

ehheeheh.

on the neo's i set the jumpers to 66.
I am thinking this may have been a mistake.. as i now need to yank the cpus off of the neos to crank it up.

boooooooooo

do i need to flip the jumpers on the neo?
the bx is the bios chip aint it?
can i stik a small fan on it?

so many questions!!

[stoney315]

[BCN]

hey! I have not touched jumpers on Neos and ctually I would advise you to let themn as they were - you will be booting fine at any frequency besides you will always boot at 66FSB after CMOS clear.

BX is not BIOS, BX is a northbridge, the main chipset of them mobo, the one which is under the green heatsink - between the CPUs and the AGP slot. And it gets hot when managing both CPUs as you will experiance later.

[stoney315]

i have ordered a northbridge cooler... hopefully this will cover that problem.

i have noticed 2 more cap's are blown on my board... think it was ec9 and ec12.

i am swapping them out shortly... hopefully this is what is causing only 1 of the cpu's to be detected.

Is there a breakdown of what each EC does?

Si

[stoney315]

i'm guessing not then!
still awaiting access to my soldering iron to hit the rest of these cap's

Si

[Merlin55]

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/ ... &CatId=252

Anyone got any idea if these will work on the BP6? They're not expensive and if they'd work it would make a super upgrade to any BP6 mobo!

[purrkur]

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=513192&CatId=252

Anyone got any idea if these will work on the BP6? They're not expensive and if they'd work it would make a super upgrade to any BP6 mobo!

I seriously doubt it. These CPU's are low heat dissipation and low current CPU's that probably use a very low voltage. They are not SMP capable either if I am not mistaken.

I would also doubt that they are a good upgrade. A GHz VIA C3 has often been described as powerful as a 500MHz Celeron. You will probably get more comments on this from other regulars around here.

[InactiveX]

I believe a few have tried the VIA chips on the BP6, but the performance has been at best no faster than the Celeron I.

EDIT: Dammit purrkur, you just pipped me to the post!

[Billl]

...They are not SMP capable either if I am not mistaken.

I would also doubt that they are a good upgrade. A GHz VIA C3 has often been described as powerful as a 500MHz Celeron...

I really do agree with you.
The C3 Processors are indeed weak in fpu, but a C3 750 takes only 12 Watts at 100% CPU load.
But i read that VIA presented a dual processing board with two cpus.

http://www.viatech.com/en/resources/pre ... dp-310.jsp

Maybe these Eden-N cpu will run on BP6, but someone has to find out for himself - and report us his conclusion...

I agree these chips are very weak. My Celoron 366 oc'ed to 550 runs rings around this thing. Also for such a lot power chip it sure gets hotter then hell. Mine is integrated into the MB so maybe thats part of the reason it's so hot. But it's performance really blows! To give you example: 366 @ 550 does SETI wu in 14 to 20 hrs. VIA C3 1.2 actual speed is 800, 30 hrs plus. Now granted this is just number crunching, but it does give you an idea. It does just plain feel slugish at anything it does.

Billl

[davd_bob]

I tried a Via-C3(800Mhz if I remember correctly) and discovered my Intel-366 OUT PREFORMED it noticably.

Via C3s are great ONLY in situations where low power cunsumption or low noise(no fans needed) is more important then actualing processing power.

[Billl]

I tried a Via-C3(800Mhz if I remember correctly) and discovered my Intel-366 OUT PREFORMED it noticably.

Via C3s are great ONLY in situations where low power cunsumption or low noise(no fans needed) is more important then actualing processing power.

Actually Dave, you couldn't run the one I have without a fan. It's hotter than hell even with a fan on it. Might be because it is integrated into the mb but it is still way to hot to even consider without a fan.


Billl

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tell me can i run P III Copermine on this motherboard???

[InactiveX]

tell me can i run P III Copermine on this motherboard???

If you want to run one, you can with a Powerleap adaptor:

viewtopic.php?t=1780

If you want to run two in SMP, go here:

viewtopic.php?t=921

[Haciul]

Ooops

[Haciul]

I admit of not reading the whole forum but I've come across some links, the most professional being the one of Yoichiro. But that solution gave me a headache. Have you considered the solution of those guys?

http://www.rom.by/articles/S370/_english_index.htm

It offers a very simple passage cu FC-PGA:
- isolate a leg of processor AM2
- connect leg X4 with AH4
(same solution here http://forum.hardwarelabs.de/... something, sorry)

Then the first link offers a solution for the passage to FC-PGA2 too.

Have anyone tried those?
Do you know some other solutions that wouldn't require an adaptor/too much of solding on the mb?

[Haciul]

Ooops

[Haciul]

Ooops

[Haciul]

I thought my net stopped

[davd_bob]

Haciul,
Welcome aboard.

When posting...many of us hit the submit botton then hit the back to avoid multiple posting. You can edit the extra posts and remove the data and just put "Oops" instead.